AugustWest

That was awful. I loved police squad. I liked naked gun.

This just looks like action squad. Read: boring.

You blocked me over a difference of opinion?

Wow.

All I am trying to say it that it is a tool in the toolbox. Telling people Linux needs it is not true, telling people it’s bad is not true.

Quit trying to make it a negative. I would encourage anyone to explore how to use this tool. And when trying to communicate ideas on the internet it is a very useful one.

I have never blocked anyone, I find that so strange. It’s like saying because of our difference on this issue, we could never have common ground on any other.

And you ask me to remember my humanity?

lose sight of their humanity

Ok this is now a stupid conversation. Really? Humanity?

Look, you can either follow a flowchart of a dozen different things to click on to get information about your thunderbolt device or type boltctl -list

Do you want me to create screen shots of every step of the way to use a gui or just type 12 characters? That is why it is useful. It is easy to explain, easy to ask someone to do it. Then they can copy and paste a response, instead of yet another screenshot.

Next thing you know you will be telling me it is against humanity to “right click”. Or maybe we all should just get a Mac Book Wheel

Look, I am only advocating that it is a very useful tool. There is nothing “bad” about it, or even hard. What is the negative?

But I also said, I have been using a Fedora laptop for over a year and guess what? I never needed the command line. Not once.

Why do people keep saying this? If you don’t want to use the command line then don’t.

But there is no good reason to say people shouldn’t. It’s always the best way to get across what needs to be done and have the person execute it.

The fedora laptop I have been using for the past year has never needed the command line.

On my desktop I use arch. I use the command line because I know it and it makes sense.

Its sad people see it as a negative when it is really useful. But as of today you can get by without it.

Lol, yep. It’s always funny to see xfce as being light weight.

Is this where I continue the meme and say I use arch by the way?

On the other hand KDE discover… Yikes. The software manager uses as much memory as XFCE.

The surprising thing is that KDE would run on there just fine too. If you don’t add all the PIM stuff, it’s almost a wash in memory usage and just as snappy.

KDE. Been upgrading the same environment for 5 years just keeps getting better.

I started around maybe KDE 3?

Your experience is very different from mine. I usually have to dig in and fix crap that shouldnt be wrong in ubuntu long before I even get to the upgrade phase! Lots of circular problems: oh this snap doesn’t have the full dependencies. Thats ok, I know how to edit them. Except that didn’t work, so lets add the PPA. But that was out of date, lets build from scratch… and so on.

Edit: Let me add something: Glad it worked for you. And Ubuntu is Linux, and we have that in common, and I want to make sure this type of discussion is always framed under “SAME TEAM!”

Wow, that is impressive. I have been using Linux full time since around 2003. Have had it on a lot of machines in a variety of flavors. Ubuntu was always the one that did something stupid that I had to figure out to fix, and by stupid I mean Canonical’s choices more than anything else. Your example gives me hope at least.

I am using an Arch rolling now that was installed about 5 years ago, and it has been far easier to maintain than anything else. Maybe that is because change is incremental, instead of all at once. My laptop has Fedora for a couple of years and that too has been painless. I have not done a single thing except click update on that machine.

The other desktops/laptops are a variety of Debian, Suse, and Slack just to keep things interesting, but are not used nearly as frequently, so dont get updated as often.

Seriously? You have successfully managed to upgrade Ubuntu since 2014? Just to be clear, on desktops?

So you went through 3 desktop environment changes, systemd changes, snap environment changes, and it all worked? I am shocked.

Like I said the last time I even tried Ubuntu a default out of then box feature was broken by default.

And with desktops, it’s always some thing: the snap needs editing and is missing dependencies, a ppa is required, etc. On the server it’s fine but the desktop environment usually requires effort every other update.

Like I said, even at ububtu 4 I broke it in a week and went back to Debian.

I put Fedora on a laptop as a whim almost 2 years ago.

My main computers are arch, but. I had an iso handy and hadn’t used anything from based in years.

I am surprised at how quickly it gets updates. Gimp was at 3 before arch stable.

Anyways, I just keep updating the laptop and it just keeps working. I have yet to actually do anything for maintenance on it.

Ubuntu? Never. I have had longer less problem free with Arch than Ubuntu. Last time I tried it for a project it was broken on install.

I am all for Debian, love it. But Ubuntu has been crappy since day one.

Got it. My initial thought was you wanted to see the cover when it was playing. This makes more sense now. I don’t use covers in the catalog part because my library is way too big. I would never be able to scroll through them all!

Still is. I use it everyday.

Fork of Clementine you mean.

I am still using Clementine. Strawberry is missing some features.

Clementine does all those things. I may have mistaken what you are asking for. Are you wanting a cover larger than a thumbnail in the “catalog” section?