It feel like a bad unreal dream. I am honestly concerned and scared.

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    It’s strange, or? Where we normal people are trying to get on with our lives, our government decides to wage war with some other country, where normal people are also just trying to get on with their lives.

    No one wants war, besides people selling missiles, bombs, tanks, guns, etc

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      As part of the constitution that was imposed on them when the US rebooted their government following WWII, Japan can’t activate its military except in self defense.

      Their politicians have been complaining about that and trying to get rid of it for decades now, but in my opinion every country should have such a provision. Any sane politician claims they wouldn’t use the military unless someone else attacked first, so why give them the option at all?

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      There are far more that want war. Even people that would have nothing to gain but everything to lose from a war.

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        Send them to the front and let the problem solve itself.

        The issue lies with where the sentiment comes from. Most of the time it originates from politicians who, unable to solve local problems, choose to demonize a part of society or another country in order to get away with their failures and the riches/power this enables them to grab.

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      I don’t think the people who sell or make weapons want/provoke war (especially), it’s always the dictators or autocrats who do it. Always. Always. Always.

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        The people who make and sell weapons absolutely do want war. Nations at war need to keep replenishing their stockpiles whereas nations at peace burn through much less. You can use a tank many times in drills but when it’s blown up for real, you aren’t reusing it.

        The dictators and autocrats also want war, but they have their own reason: war distracts people from issues at home. If they can’t have a real war, they manufacture an internal enemy instead. Sometimes they do both.

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          So swedish SAAB is actively trying to provoke wars around the world?

          What about BAE systems?

          Yeah not really. Or show me proofs of the the reverse.

          Or is it the old USA bad + conspiracy theories?

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            I said want, not provoke. Getting caught actively provoking war would instantly end a corporation in many jurisdictions. I have no proof of them doing that, but I also wouldn’t be surprised if some do. SAAB? Probably not. American ones at least can easily affect policy by financing politicians, particularly presidents.

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              So you’re just discussing in bad faith here. How the hell do you know the CEO (or the management) “wants” war but does not want to “provoke war”? Are you a mind reader?

              Or are you one of those people thinking we shouldn’t have an army?

              I also notice the “USA BAD” bias, what about russia, they do want war and provoke it.